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This passage from Walden highlights Thoreau’s reflections on the enduring value of wood, comparing its significance across different cultures and times.
Posted in: ENGL 340 S25 Geneseo
[The wasps came by thousands to my lodge in October, as to winter quarters, and settled on my windows within and on the walls over-head, sometimes deterring visitors from entering. Each morning, when they were numbed with cold, I swept some of them out, but I did not trouble myself much to get rid of them; I even felt complimented by their regarding my house as a desirable shelter.]
I’m very curious about Thoreau’s decision to leave this paragraph and the next in. It feels kind of silly in a way to have this section dedicated to wasps to the point of comparing their migration to his. He’s always very focused on the people and his immediate inanimate environment, so this tidbit just about these insects feels unique to me. Did he feel them so important to his home and the way he was living at the time that they had to be included?
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I liked this chapter and found it rather interesting. Thoreau seems to be having a conversation with himself, but also with the world he lives in. He acknowledges that he is a Hermit, but also a Poet and he lives in the duality of this nature. He seems to wonder what the outside world is doing, but he also looks inward at himself for comfort as well. This was an interesting chapter.
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I am interested in why he goes back and forth between the Hermit and the Poet. It seems like they are having a conversation, however it reads more as monologues to simple questions that are barely being answered and then it randomly transitions into Thoreau speaking again. Is he the Hermit to the poet? or are they two different characters that he has come across?
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I am curious if this quote was not in any of Thoreau’s other versions of this manuscript. In paragraph 19, he claims that he missed cooking with a fire and that cooking with a stove is not “poetic.” Thoreau then remembers the words of a poet. When did Thoreau remember these words? Was it when he was writing this, or was it when he was editing his work? Was this paragraph different before he added this quote?
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[ I had a companion in my fishing,]
I really enjoyed this chapter. I think the conversational aspect of it between the poet and the hermit is really interesting and clever, the way Thoreau carries it out. It could have been summarized as a conversation, but I like the back-and-forth aspect of the dialogue. I wonder if this was how he had it planned out originally, or if he first intended to write this scene as a summary. I think this could be a part of Walden that he edited and then included the dialogue.
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In this paragraph, Thoreau condemns industrial, profit-motivated farming in preference for foraging. This is seen in his choice for the beauty and fragrance of wild grapes rather than their taste or function as a food item. Additionally, his reverence of the Apios tuberosa shows his respect for naturally found food over the “fatted cattle and waving grain fields”. I wonder how this preference changed over time in each version of the manuscript? Was he once indifferent to the agricultural practices of the time, if so did his view change due to his time spent in Walden?
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[7 1 Hermit]
I found this conversation between Hermit and Poet very interesting and it raised several questions. First, I am curious on who exactly is “hermit” and who is the “poet” because Thoreau would be considered both. This makes me wonder if there is another person he consistently talks with or if this is two versions of himself. I also was curious why paragraph 5 starts with “hermit alone”. Along with this, I wonder the significance of adding these sections at the beginning of “Brute Neighbors”.
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This passage is so captivating. It feels like a good action movie, and yet, it’s part of a book! That’s so cool! Who would have thought I’d be so invested in ants fighting? This is why I’m curious how this paragraph changed across Thoreau’s versions. I want to know if he had to keep editing the passage so that the ant combat would make sense, and I want to know if he edited the passage to make it sound more dramatic or interesting. Plus, he has a lot of allusions in the passage like Achilles and the battle of Bunker Hill. Did those allusions come naturally to him, or did he include them later? If he included them later, what is the purpose of adding them? Was he trying to sound educated, or did he think they would make the passage easier to understand? I have so many questions!
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This is a great question, Ashley! This revision illustrates the value of comparing the fluid-text transcription against the manuscript itself. It appears that Thoreau hasn’t stricken the thought in the words he’s crossed out but simply re-worded it, and that the new words are meant to replace the original. Have a look at manuscript image 714 in HM924, the Huntington’s collection of Walden MS leaves, particularly the section of the image below.
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Where I Lived, And What I Lived For 13-23 (2 comments)
[We must learn to reawaken and keep ourselves awake, not by mechanical aids, but by an infinite expectation of the dawn, which does not forsake us in our soundest sleep.]
Here, Thoreau talks about his desire to live a more natural and spiritualistic way of life. To him, advancing oneself morally is more important than advancing technologically. I wonder what he would think of the scenarios given in Gleick’s The Information, in which people interweave technology into their daily lives to make things simpler (such as inventing the telegraph for easier and faster communication). For example, I wonder what he would think of social media today. It has been argued for a long time that social media can be detrimental to an individual’s mental health, although, I believe that when used consciously and purposefully, it can lead to this moral growth that Thoreau describes.
“We must learn to reawaken and keep ourselves awake, not by mechanical aids, but by an infinite expectation of the dawn, which does not forsake us in our soundest sleep.”
This quote comes off in a very positive light, and is something that I believe a lot of people even to this day try to live by, yet it feels weakened by Thoreau’s decisions moving forward with his writing. Just four paragraphs later after setting up this sort of hope for a very beautiful way of treating life, he speaks out against news and the post office in general! Paragraph 19 seems to come from an entirely different viewpoint, which does not show this same appreciation, and that is very interesting to me! Does the negativity that most journalism carries actively contrast strongly enough with his positive views that it threatens their validity?
The Village (1 comment)
“It is true, I might have resisted forcibly with more or less effect, might have run ‘amok’ against society; but I preferred that society should run ‘amok’ against me, it being the desperate party”
How is society a “desperate party”? In the last few sections, Thoreau uses the word “desperate” to describe the reckless nature of some men and their society. “Desperate” is rather vague, but some synonyms I find especially applicable to Thoreau’s meaning of the word are “hasty”, “rash”, “desirous”, and “demoralized.” Thoreau’s fellow man seemed to lack the deliberation with which he led his life; instead, their lives are governed by rash decisions based on wayward desires, grounded in no certain morality. The list of synonyms marches on to include “lawless”, “violent”, and “resigned.” Thoreau knew the weight of the word he was using, and that weight has only increased over the years. With concern, Thoreau indicates how society seems ever more resigned to desperation rather than deliberation.
In the quote above, Thoreau re-iterates his civil disobedience. Rather than ‘running amok’ against society by evading the law, he calmly accepts his charge and does time in jail. He allows society, that desperate party, to run amok against him. I take this to mean he threw himself with some faith into that jail cell, figuring all the while that ‘society’ would do its utmost to keep him there. It seems he accepted this as a possibility, but kept faith that his fate would never be decided by desperate men and their “dirty institutions.” He was right, but the same cannot be said for many people in America today. Unfortunately, a country led by desperate men sows desperation among its citizens. “Dirty institutions” regularly decide the fate of our country, and by extension, the fate of our people, disparaging some and wildly benefitting others. How much longer can we trust society to “run amok” against us, fairly? How long before our best option may be to run amok against society ourselves?
Economy 82-97 (1 comment)
[The reader will perceive that I am treating the subject rather from an economic than a dietetic point of view, and he will not venture to put my abstemiousness to the test unless he has a well-stocked larder.]
We see disclaimers everywhere now, ranging anywhere from adult content warnings to seizure warnings. The tone of them is always serious, informative, and short. They are there for a reason–whether people think they are necessary or not. Because of the purpose of them, I see them as either being concerning for what the show is going to explore, or I groan because I want the show to start. However, when I read this sentence, I couldn’t help but laugh. It has the content of a disclaimer but the approach of a comedic skit. And so, I wonder what the purpose of this sentence actually was for Thoreau. Was he simply making fun of people who try everything they read without considering the consequences or the validity of the writer? Was he genuinely trying to warn people in a fun way not to do what he does with food because it could be harmful to them? Were people suing each other a lot back then too? Was Thoreau just protecting himself?